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Friday, February 16, 2007

Hail the confederates

I am currently reading Grant's memoirs and there are a lot of great quotes. This one from his view on the Mexican war which he opposed, but thought that it should be fought to conclusion will all vigor and support once it had begun.

Experience proves that the man who obstructs a war in which his nation is engaged, no matter whether right or wrong, occupied no enviable place in life or history. Better for him, individually, to advocate 'war, pestilence, and famine,' than to act as obstructionist to a war already begun. The history of the defeated rebel will be honorable thereafter, compared with that of the Northern man who aided him by conspiring against his government while protected by it. The most favorable posthumous history the stay-at-home traitor can hope for is oblivion.

He is right. Today the confederates, despite fighting for the most dismal of causes, are hailed as brave heroes fighting for their country. Take Robert E. Lee for example. He should be considered the greatest traitor in American history. He took an oath to defend the constitution! And took up arms against his oath. Instead, today he is hailed, while the war opponents in the north are now despised and disgraced.

Blogger Scribbler de Stebbing said...

Grant was a slaveholder who put politics above principle, fought a war to slake a bloodthirst, and had little regard for states' rights.

12:13 PM, February 16, 2007  
Blogger Scribbler de Stebbing said...

Does it sometimes seem that I argue just for the sake of arguing? Hmmm. That could be.

12:19 PM, February 16, 2007  
Blogger Sloanasaurus said...

No, should we believe that you believe that Grant was a slave holder?

12:54 PM, February 16, 2007  
Blogger Scribbler de Stebbing said...

He was. To his credit, he eventually freed the slave.

1:22 PM, February 16, 2007  
Blogger Sloanasaurus said...

I don't recall reading about his slaves in his memoirs. But, maybe he owned them in secret. Or just maybe.... he never owned slaves? Hmmm...

1:23 AM, February 17, 2007  
Blogger Scribbler de Stebbing said...

What kind of wager are you willing to proffer, Mr. Sloanasaurus?

7:13 AM, February 19, 2007  
Blogger Sloanasaurus said...

Well, I guess Grant did live in Missouri for a while, so it is possible that he or his wife had some slaves. Therefore, its not worth a bet.

Damn you Scribbler!

10:10 AM, February 20, 2007  
Blogger Scribbler de Stebbing said...

We could just say that, if I'm right, you'll vote for Ron Paul. I'd meekly accept that. (Meek is my middle name.)

10:42 AM, February 20, 2007  

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